Big Brother 2011

[Fluttereyes]

Yes it's on again and yes, it's like a train wreck, I can't stop watching.  Put any gripes you have about the show in here.  We all know that we only watch it so we can moan about them anyway, right? 

[Watilla]

I've watched every single one. I found the show fascinating from a psychological perspective, though it's gotten impossible to view the show in this way over the years due to the ever increasing lack of coverage we're allowed to see, and the editing.

So based on the editing and the impressions so far of this years housemates (bad spelling of their names are to follow):

Tashi - She seemed nice, but got a little odd towards the end in the diary room.
Rebekkah - Good housemate for TV, but as a friend you couldn't turn your back for a second, lol. She seemed to be housing a few personalities, which intrigued me.
Heaven - I liked her but knew she wouldn't last long in there.
Mark - A deep soul that could tell you a story or two, I liked him.
Mazie - Never got her, but she seemed okay.
Aaron - His image confuses me, so I'm on the fence about him.
Aden - Not keen so far.
Anton - Not keen so far.
Faye - She seems okay, down-to-earth.
Lou - Okay, but I'm on the fence, need to see more from her.
Alex - She doesn't get much coverage so not sure yet.
Jay - Not sure, but he'd be good for a laugh.
Harry - Can't relate to him.
Tom - Not keen.
Gem (Fayes sister) - She seems good for a laugh as well.

I think that's all of them, but I may have forgotten one.

[Fluttereyes]

Ok here goes my rough guide which may be a bit harsher than yours.  I'm a people watcher and I have this lot pegged and haven't gone wrong at all so far.  I've seen it coming before it happened. 

Tashi - Fruitcake, mental enough to think that Pamela Anderson wanted to be her best friend, gorgeous but nuts

Rebekkah - Bitch, you couldn't leave your false eyelashes down but she'd pinch them.  Used Aden like a toy and is still only using
him to get her face in the public eye, i.e. her date with someone in the house, she wouldn't have been offered that had they not wanted to wind Aden up.

Heaven - Actress but too fruit loops to carry it off properly, Announced being a vegan but ate eggs, when pulled up on this she said "I eat what my body needs", oddly she says her body never needs meat.  Pretended to be very clever and talked of the Annunaki, even though she didn't know what they were called, she called them the people of Niburu and said they were giants.  I cringed at her pretending to be knowledgeable about that and wished I had been there to put here straight

Mark - Actor who came into the house like Norma Wisdom, couldn't keep the act up anymore, got bored and left the house.  I actually thought he had a chance of winning if he just remained himself and didn't revert back to Norma Wisdom.

Mazie - "Oh look at me I'm Mazie who got away with my dad giving me messages from an aeroplane".  Insists Aaron kissed her when in fact she had her back to him and it was her who kissed him by turning around.  She knew there was something between him and Faye and wanted to get camera time, no loss to the house.

Aaron - Voted to keep him in when he was up for eviction, now see through him and would love to smack him one.  He's weak and very much like a little girl emotionally.  Hope he goes this week.

Aden - Loser, thinks he's a rapper and the only wrapper he'll ever get close to is a sweet wrapper.  Honestly, 19, yeah fine he's young, but even at 19 he should be able to see through Rebekkah.  Won't amount to much and does not have the high IQ he claims to have.

Anton - The only think rebekkah was right about, he's a snake.  Good game though and after all it is a game show, I have no idea why they always say so and so has a game plan, you need to have to play that game and that's all BB is.

Faye - Liked her until the whole Aaron thing, now that her sister is in we see a whole new side of her.  That sniping and bitching when they were doing the card thing in the diary room showed her up for the spoiled little girl she is.

Lou - The clever one.  She pretends to be dumb but really she spent the first three weeks assessing the situation, saw Jay as a winner and hooked on to him, now she's not so sure after he got into arguments with other housemates so she no longer wants to associate with him.  The only female in the house with her own hair, the rest all have extensions and bad ones mostly at that.

Alex - Should win it, she's being completely herself and very real.  Her game plan is a cracker and she's keeping it up so well.  We know she was cabin crew and you have to sit exams for that, no numpties need apply.  You can almost see her laughing inside when she rips it out of the guys.  Classic saying, to Faye and Gem "How long have you two been sisters?"  I'm not fooled, but the housemates are, good on her.  Has an admirable ability to slink off every time an argument starts, my sport is watching for her doing it, she's a genius.  Also the least pretty of all the girls so the last one they'd think to nominate, they get rid of competition first.


Jay - Chav but hot.  He could win this but his ego might get him in trouble.  He actually deserves to win.

Harry - Uhm, I'll say muppet.  He's a mummies boy.  Happy enough to pour all sorts all over Alex but when she dared to throw water on him, he went mental.  Happy enough to order stupid shopping like 500 bananas and food colouring, but when someone used the food colouring on his clothes, he went mental.  He should have been reminded that if he hadn't bought 13 bottles of food colouring and 20 bottles of ketchup, they wouldn't have been able to do it.  I'm raging that he's not up this week, I wanted both him and Aaron up on their own.

Tom - Nothing more than the obligatory gay/bi/looney character they have every year, he brings nothing to the house except a platform for Alex to shine.

Gem (Fayes sister) - Is loving the fact she might be able to cramp her sisters style, wants to get with Jay as she also sees him as a ticket to the final show, I think both her and Faye are about to show their true colours.  In my opinion, she should have said no to BB this year as her sister was already in.  Chose Jay over her sister for the gym workout and that says it all to me.

Now don't say I'm a nasty person, I was being as nice as I could.

BB 3 was the best BB ever and they'll never top it.  They have to stop putting all these looney tunes in and go back to normal people where we did get a good show.  I feel we are not seeing much at all this year and it's all engineered for Jay to win.

[Watilla]

Regarding Aden/Rebekkah and Jay/Lou, I find it hard to see any victims. Aden has a brain, as he likes to keep telling us, so I don't totally agree with him being used as a toy. Having said that, Rebekkah seen something good in Aden which might make her take a step back and rethink the issues she has on men. There is a lot of great men out there, so it's sad to hear she hasn't met many in her life.

Jay and Lou like one another, but only in a physical way. They both eventually admitted, in a round-about way, that they don't connect emotionally. It happens, but I have a weird feeling Jay will start turning on Lou now. I think the cut-out note on her bed gave a crystal clear message, and if he can't have her (in that way) he'll secretly want her gone.

Harry with the shopping was odd, my mum thinks he did it to get at Jay, knowing he'd be the most angry. I think she may have a point. Perhaps Harry is jealous of Jay's status in the house and the fact he managed to catch Lou's attention. And I'm not sure if I heard Jay right, but I think he calls Harry "Barry" lol. I found that funny.

Out of all the males in there, I find Aaron the most attractive. I've never been drawn to the ones who play the hard man/tough guy routine. As a female I am supposed to like the tough guys, nothing could be further from the truth, it turns me off.

I don't judge the housemates if they happen to have a gameplan, and agree it's just part of it if you want to succeed more in there. The earlier shows were the best, for the simple fact BB didn't know what was going to happen and the housemates that were shoved in there didn't know how to work things so you got a bit more reality out of them. No victims here either though, as BB uses the housemates and in turn these new ones use BB.

BB 2 was my favourite. Kate Lawler was in that one, I think. My memories a bit shabby, lol.

[Fluttereyes]

Kate Lawler won BB 3 and that was the one I loved.  Who can forget Alex behind the door miming to "That's the way uh huh uh huh I like it" and hiding under the bed for hours.  I loved that season and was completely lost when it ended, it set a standard that will never be achieved again as after that they just found as many weirdo's as they could and lumped them together.

I don't think there are any true victims either, they all know what they're doing.  With Rebekkah I think it was that she thought Aden had a chance of winning and if you hook up with the winner that everyone likes, you're less likely to get booted out.

In saying that, I think Jay is a slight victim with Lou as he totally bared his soul on National TV for her with those cut out letters and the love hearts.  I think they do have chemistry but they just don't know each other mentally enough.  I think they both find it hard to talk to each other because of the cameras.  Jay might well end up with Gem if he's stupid enough to go for that, I think she's too masculine.  Lou and Jay ended up chatting together in bed again on last nights show, so who knows?  I remember when I was you I met a guy who I fancied a guy, he looked a lot like George Clooney with those big brown eyes, very good looking, better than Clooney.  I really liked him and we spent a lot of time together, but I always felt nervous with him and couldn't get into full conversations with him, I suppose I was kind of in awe of him and overwhelmed by him.  The same thing could be happening to Lou with Jay.

I also thought Aaron was gorgeous at first and he is still attractive in the looks department but he's such a child.

Harry only hates Jay because he sees him as a potential winner, he's jealous that Jay is popular in the house.  Yesterdays stirring with the nominations showed most of them up for who they were and Alex triumphed again by not taking part in the discussions, she's the one to watch, they all see her as ditzy and think she's not competition but she is a silent runner.

The old thing of hooking up for camera time and getting us all hoping there will be a relationship died out with Helen and Paul in BB 2.  Now it's just stupid.

Who do you see as a contender?

[Fluttereyes]

Now here's a good one for you.  I seem to be able to remember Aaron leaving the house to the song 'got the moves like Jagger', the weird thing is that he's still in the house.  Let's see what song they play when he leaves.

I'd like Aaron to go soon because he always has a dripping face these days.  I'd have preferred Harry to go or Aden right enough.  Hopefully Aden will go this week and we won't have to see him crying like a baby anymore.

I'm going to vote at some point this week to save Jay, the rest are all disposable 

[Watilla]

Ah -- that's right, Brian Dowling was in BB2 (I thought that one was good as well), but yeah it's BB3 I'm thinking of with Kate. Her and Johnny made great TV, I thought.

I can understand being in awe and finding things awkward because of it, so if this is the case with Jay and Lou then in time they may develop on an emotional level and find things in common. Time will tell I guess. Credit to Lou for being straight about her feelings though, because she could have kept quiet until she was outside away from the cameras, and to me that would seem worse. Catch-22 really, for both of them.

Aaron is a real rubix cube, I hear words coming from his mouth, but they don't match his image. I think there is a scheming mind in that head of his, and the sides he has shown don't really make sense. He was more than capable of standing up to Anton the other night, but then you'll find him in the diary on other occasions claiming to be worried about things. In other words, I am personally doubting the "childish" side he's putting out, thinking that may make him more endearing to the public.

With Gem, I love her muscles, and admire the determination having those muscles must take, but I think she's gone a bit too far. I used to watch all those womens weight lifting/body building comps on TV and noticed when the women came out to pose, their chins were chiseled (they looked fantastic), but I think there is a line, and Gem has crossed that line. It's a shame, but it's true and it starts to look out of place on a woman.

I agree about the whole "couple thing" being done already with Paul and Helen, and instead of it helping the new housemates, it's actually hindering them to get landed with anyone in there now. There is plenty of other ways that they can grab the camera though, and that's by arguing, trashing the house and even Harry with that shopping list. Harry got loads of air time for that.

Who I see as being a contender, or who I think will end up in the final:

Aaron - The public will either find him a breath of fresh air, endearing, or they'll get sick of him.
Jay - I can see the female public liking him. He can't do much wrong, allowances will be made for him.
Alex - I think she'll at least make it into the final, that's providing there isn't a house vote in there. A house vote in earlier shows seen the quiet ones getting the boot, so she'll have to be careful with being too quiet.
Faye and Gem - Maybe, but I don't think the public will let them off with a few things that have been shown, mostly Faye. But I personally think Faye deserves to get into the final.

I can't really picture any of the others being in the final. What I don't want to see, is Anton and Aden in the final. I want Anton gone this week.

[Fluttereyes]

After tonight stunt with Harry and Aaron losing them that shopping budget again, I just want them out.  They don't make good TV, I want to put my hand into the telly and smack Harry and Aaron is just as bad.  They're pair of schoolboys and their faux rebellion is extremely boring now. 

Jay, well at least he's being himself and not pretending to be anything else.  I also can understand every word he says as Geordies talk like Scots 

Lou reminds me a bit of Kate Lawler with the ladette thing.

I liked BB 2 as well, I only caught the end of BB1 and saw Craig winning it but watched all of BB2, even during the day while I was working about the house I had it on.  Helen and Paul ended up together for a very long time, years, it's a shame they split in the end.

BB3, had to be the best one ever, Jade was in that one too, remember her and PJ?  Also you might remember Adele, she was the first real bitch in BB.  One of the funniest moment was when Kate and Alison wee jumping on the garden table and they went right through it.

Kate was hilarious one night, they had split the house into the rich and poor side and she was in the poor side, they had been split away from the bedroom and didn't even have clean clothes, they were only able to take what they had on.  She won a night over on the rich side and she was drunk.  She was told she could take back with her whatever she was wearing and she went into the bedroom and tried to put all her clothes on at once, she ended up falling on the floor a few times, really funny stuff, she deserved to win that but I must admit I was routing for Johnny Regan.

Talking of Alison, I hate her now and I'm so jealous, I saw her interviewing Hugh Jackman yesterday and he was feeding her chocolates from his mouth to hers.  I have a serious crush on Hugh Jackman, he's such a nice guy.

[Watilla]

I didn't think it was fair on Alex when Anton said (from rough memory) "you voted for me, but it's okay, and I know Harry voted for me too" that kinda put her into a corner. I think she was right for not divulging who she voted for that day, and he's clearly not okay about it, lol. The more and more I see of him, he's coming across as someone who can't take responsibility and nothing is ever his fault in his mind. I think he wants to take a good hard look in the mirror, because he'll see Rebekkah staring right back at him. 

The whole house getting punished again this week with the shopping budget was a bit deep, two weeks in a row. :L I understand why it was done, but really, if you have beef with someone, take it out on them but don't punish all the others in the process. I did find their faces a picture when the other housemates all emerged from the task room one by one, though.

When I heard Helen and Paul had split, it was sad to hear, but I think they said they still keep in touch and are good friends. Which is lovely, especially since they were together a long time.

I remember Jade and PJ, and remember the day I went off him. The day he woke up after that night with Jade, blanking her and treating her like she was nothing.  Adele I remember, but don't recall what she did in there.

I loved it when Kate and Alison broke that table, lol. And loved watching Kate struggle into all those clothes and falling over, out of her skull. Another time I remember, I think the divides must have been taken away at this point, with Kate and Johnny intoxicated on the floor with the punch bowl. Kate had been sick a few times and still kept going, lol.

<- Geordie   

[Fluttereyes]

Oh are you a Geordie?  That's so cool, one day I hope to get to Newcastle and I could take you for a coffee.  It's a place I always wanted to go and just never get round to it.  I'm in Glasgow so I talk a bit like Jay, the only thing is he says div and diven't and it's only really up north Scots say that, Aberdeen talk like that.  I didn't realise how much like us Geordies talked till I heard him.

Both Aaron and Harry are among the older ones in the house, so they really should have a bit more responsibility within the group but they are the ones who mess it up all the time.  I did like Aaron and spent money keeping him in at the start but when I saw him pull legs off dolls during that task I just thought he was brainless, they did everything to spoil that task and then when they didn't get away with it, they messed up the shopping.

Why are the guys doing the shopping, the women are weak, if I was in there I'd have taken over weeks ago?  Anton and Aden think they're doing it this week but people need to remember that Anton was in on that thing with the bananas last week.  He really does seem totally obsessed with Aaron but in a lot of ways he's right, he's just going about it all wrong.

Alex deserves to win just for putting up with them all.  That was bad last night when Anton was going on at her and also Aden going on at Lou.  They know women get voted out first but I don't think so this time.  We can all see what's going on in there.  Faye has no chance of getting kicked out this week and it's going to be either Aden or Anton, though I wish we could split up the Aaron/Harry pairing as that's the most trouble.  I don't think it's good entertainment having to watch someone go without food, those bananas must all be rotten by now.  Anton just can't see that 5 people nominated him and Aden needs to realise that 3 people voted him out, not just Lou.

What I want is for Jay to do what he said in the diary room and pull all the housemates together to just ignore Aaron and Harry, they need to be taken down a peg or two.

[Watilla]

Guilty as charged yer honor. Coffee and a good ol' natter, hehe. As far as I am aware I don't say "divn't" like Jay but I do say aye and nah for yes and no, us instead of me, me instead of my, etc. And I have to be careful when I'm putting some words into text such as "could have" as it sounds like "could of" in my head, lol.
 
Accents and slang I find really fascinating. I like to do accents. There is a person on You Tube called "worldaccordingtodunk" who does accents (lots of British ones.) May not be 100% spot on but pretty good I thought, and find him quite funny with it.
 
Back on topic before I get carried away (heh) ...

I thought each of the housemates eventually got a shot at doing the shopping list? But now you mention it I've not seen the women do one yet. Hm. I think if it goes on for another week of basic food they might just drag themselves into the diary room with that chalkboard, if they have the energy or the will to live by then.
 
Like you, I don't much get off on watching them survive on basics, it's not my idea of entertainment. Nor is watching someone being deprived of cigarettes, BB has done that to them in the past as well. Plenty of other ways to make things fun without resorting to that for the show.

The one yesterday showing most of the housemates gathering to get Alex her hair extensions was nice of them, and considering they didn't have much money to spend I'd say that was a pretty big compliment to Alex. Underneath it all though, mayhaps they are all just now smelling a potential winner in Alex as I don't recall them bothering with her much before? A compliment either way, nonetheless.
 
It's hard to tell really since we only get an hour, and even that is split up with numerous adverts. Gone are the days where we could actually view the rooms we wanted to watch (BB1), E4/E4+ covered a lot for most of the day as well. Granted you'd have to put up with bickering hens in the background and looking at a pair of oven gloves for a bit, but at least we had the choice, lol. Frankly, this is just taking the biscuit.

[Fluttereyes]

This is the year they should bring back rish side and poor side and the people who failed the task should be out on the poor side with basic rations while the others who worked their butt off should get a good shopping bonus, then the only ones who would suffer are the guilty.

Why can't they all see Harry is the cheerleader.  He's the one who comes up with all the ideas to mess with the other housemates heads? It was his idea to leave that room and fail the task.  Oh I wish I could get in there for a week and sort them all out 

I loved the old days when you could tune in while having your lunch or whatever, it was on E4 all day and when you were bored you could watch.  I feel it's more engineered this year and we're not seeing what we should.

Alex with the hair, I hope that doesn't backfire on her, once everyone is hungry they'll remember they spent money on her hair instead of food.

Jay was daft getting beers and baccy as he'll go crazy without food.  They should have pulled all their resources together, if I was in there or any mature person was in there, you'd work the shopping budget in daily meals.  Like get a couple of chickens for one meal and mince for another, enough to do all of them then do a meal planner to be sure it spins out.  They're all too young and the ones that are older are immature

Ones like Harry and Aaron have obviously never had to go without food in their whole lives.  They find food deprivation funny, whereas the rest of us who've at one point had to pull a meal together from nothing can appreciate how important food is.  I hate Yahoo Henry's and that's what Harry and Aaron are.  I'm a commoner and proud of it and that's why I like people like Alex and Jay.  Alex has told stories of when she lived on just rice and stuff, she knows what it's like to have nothing.

Jay was saying last night that he promised his mum he wouldn't chuck a mental but I honestly wouldn't blame him if he flattened someone, in fact, I'd be cheering him on.

BB was ruined when they started to put all whacky characters in and it's never recovered.  The housemates are a bit more normal this year but they're all young, you need a good mix.  They are also all English, which isn't really fair and not good for the house.  They should try to have a mix of all 4 countries to mix it up a bit.

Can't wait to see who's out tonight, but as we vote to save now, it could well be a shock.  I think the first announcement will be Jay is safe, and I think Anton could well go as nobody will vote to save him and Aaron could well get away with it. 

Oh, I absolutely hate reading something when it says 'could of', make me nuts, I always want to correct it    We more or less say 'coulduv'.  We say aye and Naw, instead of can't it's canny.  Jay sounds a lot like us.

[Watilla]

I agree that there should be consequences in there from BB for things like this. I remember a certain episode of Red Dwarf when they were in a prison type place and if they tried to do something there were consequences. Lister was told to set fire to something, and when he done it, his own jacket--I think it was--was set fire to instead, LOL. If only those rules applied to real life ey? ...

One reason why the other housemates might be overlooking Harry and taking things out on others instead may, just may, be because of his background. If this is the undercurrent in this case, they really needn't bother. It's not like Harry will personally give them some of his wealth when they all get out of there. :L

I think I would have done exactly the same as Jay by just getting the happy juice and tobacco, it's illogical as one needs to survive an all, but I understand why he made that choice. They really do need to stick together with these things, but as you pointed out, they're all young and the older ones are destructive (petty.)

Mine and Harry's world, well, we are worlds apart from eachother. I can't relate and vice versa. No-ones fault, it's just the way things are.
 
When you say "all 4 countries to mix it up" do you mean like putting a french person in there (they'd still know English)? If they did that I'd like them to put a Japanese man in there for me. 
 
I hope Anton goes tonight, I believe he should have been shoved out as quick as Rebekkah was. Jay is safe. The ones who I think are not so safe are Faye, Aden and Anton. The vote to "save" housemates this year instead of getting rid of, really have had no effect. Females have still gotten the boot earlier just like every other year. No difference from what I can see.
 
I don't mind if people correct me on grammar, I like to learn. I only take issue with those who are patronizing when they're correcting others. No need.

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They can't see it in Harry because he does the mixing then steps back and watches the fall out, he's sly.  Last night he stayed in the bath when Aden tried to get them altogether to work though it.  I've never been rich or anything either, my childhood was very poor, but I know his type.  I made the mistake of sending my daughter to a private school on a scholarship/bursary thing and it was the worst thing I ever did.  It was an all girls school and the only things she learned were rudeness, bad manners and disrespect for me.  Harry got a phone call from his mum and he was calling her mummy, my son hasn't said that since he was about 5, it's been mum or my first name since then and now it's always my first name, I give up trying to get him to call me mum and just accept it now 

4 countries, I mean the 4 countries of the UK, England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales.  Only England is represented and usually there's a better mix. 

I'd like Anton to go but I don't think Aaron is really safe either.  Faye might go because she's female but if everyone else is like me, they've been waiting for a chance to boot out Aden and Anton and now I'm adding Aaron to my list.

I do think it makes a difference when you're voting to save, as then everyone is voting for the one popular person.  I think if it was to boot them out, the votes would be split a little more because everyone hates some of them for different reasons.

When it was Heaven up against Aden, was it?  There was only a couple of percent of a difference in the vote.

Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll boot out the bottom two.

Oh and on grammar, nobody is allowed to do that on this site, I hate grammar queens.  I'm happy for people to make mistakes as I'm well aware that some of the members may well have something like dyslexia.  So if anyone ribs you, I'll jump on their heads 

[Watilla]

I can't pretend I'm not just a tad bit disappointed in tonights eviction. I'd say fix  , but in the words of earlier BB housemates "it's only a game show." I guess all those boos for him were fake then? Just hope he doesn't slime his way into the final.

I've seen Harry stirring the pot a few times now as well, watching them go at eachother, while he smirks. I wont pin it all on him, but I do hope the rest catch on soon. And ouch about that private school, that school sounds absolutely awful. Just wow.

Ah, I see what you mean now by the 4 countries. It would be nice for more of a mix, it does make things more interesting.

I hope you'll be right about the vote to save thing, I'd like it to make some difference. I just think if people (the public) are determined enough to get someone out, nothing could deter them. We'll see. It is a new system after all.

It's good to know you'll not tolerate that behaviour on the boards. You're right, there could be many reasons. Best to be mindful.